Emmanuel Anthony talking about the link between emotions and disease

Emmanuel 0:06

Yeah, so I, when I started off at about probably seven or eight, I think it was a originally had asthma. And I remember having that up until about grade four or five. And then I saw the kids running one day because I was very athletic. And I got really pissed off just before I had to inhale. And I threw it on the floor and said, I'm not doing this anymore, and never had asthma again. So that was the first insight into something very interesting for me, between the mind and the body. But then later on, as I went through life, I popped my lung, I think the first time was in Year 10. And the second was in Year 12. It's specifically called a spontaneous, pneumothorax. Spontaneous, meaning they don't know why it occurred. Or they said it was I was tall, skinny and athletic at the time. And pneumothorax basically explains the popping of the lung, but your lungs look like two pieces of steak in an x ray. And when I popped my first lung, I remember it was my left or right, the doctors had a look on the X ray at the hospital. And they was like one doctor came and then another doctor came and then another, I said, What's going on here? Why do they keep coming over and putting the telescope on my chest and then looking at each other in this weird face that they think I can't see. And then they showed me the X ray, and one of them insisted and the other one wasn't, but I was still talking to them. I said, usually a person would be in a very different condition. So that was in Year 10. And then in year 12, the same thing happened again, but on the other lung. So now at this stage, they said, you know, for somebody that is as young as you are, for this to have occurred twice, we've got to do a bigger operation, because we you've popped them both, we can't have both of them going at the same time, you're not breathing at all. In lifestyle, very active, have always loved sport, and that kind of thing. But when it occurred the first time, the first time we thought it was a joke at school, my left arm kind of went numb, I think it was and even get the kids to hit my arm and it just flop around and all going what's going on here. It's almost like it's dead. And then that feeling went across my body. So I was just in school studying and yeah, probably played some sport and recess and lunch. The second time that it happened at school, I'd probably been a little more active on recess and lunch, but it wasn't anything like I did during sport or anything. I can't actually specifically find out when that occurred.

Lainie 2:12

How old were you when you first started on the ventilator?

Emmanuel 2:15

I don't remember. I remember that it was in primary school pretty much up until I'd probably say grade four. Yeah. And then I just turfed it. And then after I had the two spontaneous pneumothorax is I later on, I can't remember how long ago it was now maybe five or seven years, actually, probably over 10 years ago. Now to think about it because I haven't put a pharmaceutical in my body for about 11 years. And it was prior to that. I had a tumour in my kidney, I had to have that immediately cut out. They basically saw it. And then they said we got to cut that out within a couple of months. And I was in hospital and they'd cut that out.

Lainie 2:47

What led you to go and look into the fact that you had a tumour in your kidney? What was going on for you.

Emmanuel 2:53

At the time, I think I was feeling some pain in my stomach or something like that. It was actually really funny because they went and they did a whole bunch of tests. And the guy came out from one of the tests and he goes, Well, how long you had that tumour, there for?, I said what tunour? And his face, just looked at me. I could tell that he just thought, oh, wow, that's really unprofessional. I said, What's your, because we'll get the specialist to talk to you about that in a second. And then that ended up growing up to be the biggest tumour they'd seen in that area. So that's why they wanted to cut it out, it was benign, but they were worried about what could potentially occur there.

Lainie 3:27

When they did all the tests. And they said, you know, Emmanuel, you've got this tumour in your kidney, Did they give you a choice? Or did they say this has to be done, and you just had to follow because you didn't know any better?

Emmanuel 3:39

I'd probably say the latter, to be honest, my family and I've gone through quite the growth in terms of our relationships with doctors, our relationships with specialists and the advice that we take and what we don't take now during that period. Anytime that anybody said, you know, this needs to be done now, etc. We jumped into it straightaway. My mum's a great example that she's actually got a tumour in her throat and they said, we have to take that out, she changed her diet. And that reduced within two months, and they went on that was spontaneous. So what we realised was that all especially for me, as well, so for my mother, it was because my father ended up he said a cancer before and one after she started altering the diet around the household. She said, alright, you know, I'm from Mauritious originally, so we ate a lot of Mauritian food, but then a lot of Australian food as well. But we were very relaxed about a lot of things. And then she said, you know, let's she started doing research and said, Let me implement some organic food. So I started eating organic food, I noticed quite a bit of a change as I started bodybuilding as well. And I noticed that I wasn't getting sick after that. And I noticed a lot of changes that allowed me to have less headaches, more energy, more vitality, and I was learning about the mind as well. So as we did that, I would go to the doctors when I had a challenge and they'd be so quick to give me pharmaceuticals. I would opt not to take the pharmaceuticals and look for natural ways to do that. And I realised that I could actually speed up my recovery, sometimes it would take a whole 24 hours. But I started to study and then I went Hold on a second, my liver and my kidney are going to be the sacrifice that I pay there is no just win win, there's a win and a loss, what am I willing to pay, and I realised I had to take that responsibility. So my mother took that on board, I took that on board, my sister and my brother. And as we started to do that, we just we noticed the change the proof was in the pudding. So from there we altered our relationships.

Well, it really matters on the strength of the person at the time, I was still discovering who I was during that period, whereas now the voice and the vision on the inside is way louder than anything or any opinion on the outside for me. So for now, anything that happens within my life I do for me, and if anybody has a challenge for that, I appreciate the fact that they're sharing wisdom out of love, but I let them know that the consequences of anything I do I've got a I've got to be 100% accountable for whether positive or negative,

Lainie 6:24

so you've had the tumour removed because you didn't know any better when they removed the tumour, what was the next step that they wanted you to do?

Emmanuel 6:34

luckily for me, there wasn't really a next step, it was just monitoring it to make sure that it was okay. What I took out of that i s for me, I can't change and alter the past but I can alter my perception about it. So I took that as an opportunity to reflect back and have a look at something that I studied quite a bit which is what is the link between emotions and physiology? And how do we create symptoms of in our bodies including tumours by actually understanding that different emotions related for different organs. So anxiety communicates to the heart through adrenaline etc. And because just before I went in, my sister said something interesting. I remember her saying that has to do with anger, and I had a lot of anger towards my father. So that's the reason why I specialise in human emotions now in human physiology, because I realised that each of these was a blessing in disguise, to teach me to self manage, because if I didn't manage my own emotions or perceptions, even for people that say they want to separate physiology, from psychology, fine, you can do that and protect a reductionist model to it. But we can all agree that if you're physiologically experiencing symptoms, and you add stress to it, you add more for the body to try and deal with.

There's a programme by Dr. John Demartini, called the prophecy to programme and the prophecy programme goes into 100 different diseases and their link to perceptions. And what that shows because people will think it's airy fairy stuff. They'll say, oh, yeah, okay, that sounds really interesting. But when I work with clients, and they say, I'm experiencing, I've had a heart attack, etc, I'll just say straightaway to them. So how long have you been stressed? How do you know I'm stressed? because your heart has to increase it's level of repetitions compared to the norm in order for you to bring it to that point of breakdown. And that's for this long and that long, etc, are so beautiful. If I show you a graph, and I've got a person that's not stressing a new and I show you every second your graph goes up, theirs goes baseline, if I do that, over a week, you go, Wow, that's a lot. If I do that over a month, a year or a lifetime, you'd see that the way that your heart and that graph is moving up in the amount that your heart rates moving. It's not airy fairy anymore. We've got statistics to show why your heart was a particular organ that suffered. So we know all of that through science. It's just a case of understanding what can we do?

Lainie 8:58

So when you go back and look at your own journey with your lungs, and the tumour in the kidney, and that graph, what do you devise from that?

Emmanuel 9:07

Alot of anger and mismanagement of emotions, a lot of delusions and perceptions around religion, and really stringent living life had to be black or white life's grey. We know that through quantum entanglement. It has two sides, it's a cool, abraded, everything had to be black and white. And I was trying to figure that out, and then had a lot of anger towards my father and all the anger towards the world. And I was storing that. And that I know that graph because I experienced it daily. As I worked on the seven areas of my life, the mental aspect of the last part, I felt I really grasped because I, you know, got physically stronger, so I could take care of the bullies. I built my social empowerment, but there was always just something chipping away at me. And it wasn't until I got that mental aspect really clicked in that I noticed the most physiological changes within that. So I see the whole journey as feedback, but I didn't know how to read the feedback. And it wasn't until I understood how to read it and then later on Now how to dissolve emotions and that feedback and address it. Now I can actually see what their journey was about. But we have to go through that journey to get to the other side of enlightenment because it gets us to get up and actually go on that quest.

Lainie: 10:13

Well, there's a lot of talk, a lot of movement around, breaking through trauma at the moment, and how important that is for health. From what I'm understanding from what you're saying, there was trauma inside you that needed to be addressed. 100% Yeah, yeah. The tumour as it was benign, you were never concerned that it would metastasize or come back because of the work that you were doing for yourself, to heal it in other ways?

Emmanuel: 10:44

Well, that's an interesting thing over the last 11 years, I can't remember the last time I had a cold or flu, I haven't taken a pill at all, there hasn't been a pharmaceutical product placed inside of my body. I remember when I first started healing myself, I lived with some housemates, and had a really a wake up of really full on headache. And they said, let's give him a Panadol. And one, two, there was a guy and a girl that we're dating, she said, Don't put it each and he said, I'm going to spike his drink he's a good friend of mine, I'm gonna put it in their account, watch him like this. If you do, he'll break a friendship with you. She said, just let him rest. He said, he'll have his honey, his lemon. He'll work on it from the inside. But he'll also work on his perceptions that created it as well. And he'll tick off his box of have I drank enough water and everything else. He said he wants to she knew me, well. That was probably about eight o'clock, or I think six or seven or eight in the morning. At one o'clock, I was fully suited, three piece suit walked out as if nothing had happened. And he looked at me and said, What the hell is going on here? I said, Well, I had to look back to one when I didn't have the headache. And then I had to look at what some of the causes were for the headache. And I realised straightaway what was going on within my life. There are some things that I'm dealing with today, that I unconsciously really didn't want to go into the office and address. So I balanced my perceptions around that. And I can't wait to get in there and address it. he said hows the headache?, I said it feels great. Bring a lot of water with me and make sure I can address that and keep all my hydration safe.

Lainie: 11:58

Is it the same for everyone? Because I know, I know a lot of people that experience headaches, or is it different for each person what that headache would represent.

Emmanuel: 12:07

There's some similarities, the symptoms still represent something that requires work as the body never expresses something without having a reason meaning or purpose, whether it's conscious or unconscious, within that. So a lot of the things that I work with when I'm explaining symptomology to people is I'll say I can give you a job that you don't like. And you might start to yawn and go off feel a little bit sleepy, but you weren't sleepy before that. It's not until I gave you the thing you didn't like that's the first stage of a symptom, you can think of it as a really light symptom. Now, on the other hand, you can have a breakup with somebody and you were perfectly fine that day. But after that breakup, now you've got anger, fear, sadness, guilt, resentment, all of these emotions, they don't leave you for a couple of months. So there is something that's causing each one of these and I've been obsessed after almost dying 8 times in my life with finding out what the causes were and taking myself as a guinea pig to be able to find out what I could do to resolve this

Lainie: 12:58

hang on nearly dying eight times?

Emmanuel: 13:05

The popped lung was twice because we had the left and the right within that so I was rushed over both times one by my parent the other one by a hospital upon me an ambulance that couldn't find my vein. So I was at the front of the school for about 20 minutes. Then I had the tumour as well I remember signing paperwork for that, because they were quite worried about that. And then the others were around car crashes. So none of the others were around anything to do with diseases or anything just really interesting situations where I'd almost been hit by cars in car accidents. I almost went over a bridge those a range of things. I mean, it's why I do what I do today. And like I think people say I'm like a cat. I think I've only got one more life left because I only get given nine

Lainie: 13:47

Right?

Emmanuel: 13:51

Might need to go out with a bang, I think.

Lainie: 13:54

Yeah, I've been doing I've been dealing in holistic health a long time with my own journey and and finding the balance and understanding the body and understanding also that what works now may not work in 10 years because other things that you invite into your life may stain it on some other levels. So it's a constant.

Emmanuel: 14:18

Well we are changing as organisms. I used to be able to drink a coffee before I went to bed and 12 during the day, if I have caffeine now, I have come down. I literally have a crash and it's suicidal. If somebody goes to hand me a coffee my fiance will almost jump in like a bodyguard for the President. Like he needs to have a decaf

Lainie: 14:39

Do you drink alcohol?

Emmanuel: 14:41

No. I drink non alcoholic alcohol. I believe my friends who tease me call a grape juice.

Lainie: 14:47

You don't find anything that you left behind to live this lifestyle of sacrifice. This is exactly where you want to be?

Emmanuel: 14:54

No, because within each sacrifice there's also something that I gained and I worked in nightclubs from 17 to 26. And during that period, it was sex, drugs and rock and roll. So everything was available, everything was free. I absolutely love that part of my life has definitely led to my ability to do what I do today. But I think I got it out of my system for myself and about 12 Other fully grown men put together in the amount that I consumed during that period.

Lainie: 15:20

That's a whole other podcast in itself. Amazing, do you eat meat? Are you vegan?

Emmanuel: 15:27

I enjoy a golf bodybuilding kind of lifestyle. So I do eat meat. I like to have as much vegetables as I have in terms of meat. But I'm very much I just watch my calories. I track them, I track my water. I love tracking things with some people, it gives them anxiety to watch their numbers. I like to watch them as my own science test and see what my body's doing. And then alter what it is that I'm doing as as I age,

Lainie: 15:51

would you say you're obsessed with health? And I don't mean that at all to be patronising.

Emmanuel: 15:57

No, because I have a balance. My sister who loves, you know, health and wellness the way I do, She'll say, you know, replace, I remember what I love nutella the last year and she said, you know, instead of having that as cheap meal, here's an alternative that doesn't have X, Y, and Z. And then it tastes very similar. I love that. And it was half the calories. So I said beautiful. So for me, I've always been somebody because growing up, I had a lot of challenges with my father and I had to learn how to fight to be who I was. So I love doing things that I love. And my aim is to do that in all seven areas of life. And to the degree that I can I'm optimising human potential. That's why at eight o'clock at night, people say how do you work 8am till 8pm. So I'm doing what I love, like a kid in a candy store. So I love it. But I think that balance is the key. I mean, have a pizza here and there, I'm going to mix it up, I'm just going to go for more of a 90/10 principle in what I'm doing to make sure that I have longevity, I'm 37. Now my body doesn't react the same way as it did when I was even 27 to some of the foods

Lainie: 16:55

when you take your halo off is pizza, the naughty food?

Emmanuel: 16:58

I grew up around Greeks and Italians. I mean, if for your listeners listening from overseas, I'm from Melbourne originally. And that's a huge Greek and Italian community over there. My best friends are Greek and Italian. And I'm obsessed. I can eat pizza all around the world no matter where as a pizza connoisseur. But I've kind of come down on that, because there's been I've been discovering how to make food, my fiance's a great chef, but I've been taking over some of that. So now I'm actually discovering a lot of different foods.

Lainie: 17:25

Would you say you love your diagnosis and that it's shapeshifted who you are today?

Emmanuel: 17:49

I think it has shaped shifted who I am today. Because if I look at each step of the way, I've been very blessed with mine in that they were a diagnosis solution. And then I moved on to the next challenge. So I'd say that it did. I looked and I said, there are things happening outside of me, I can't control those. But I seem to keep making it back to the hospital. So there's got to be something that I'm doing, or at least that I can take control of, that can alter me coming back to this place. it's a stale place. Nobody wants to go there regularly. So that's when I started studying about the human body physiology psychology, and then realising that, you know, yes, you can go and I've got, you know, a lot of study under my belt. But yes, you can go and study 101 fields, but you've got the best organism right here with you, your body. It's a vehicle that you go through life. So you can test out some of these things and then see how they work for you. Because like you said, Everybody's body is different in that and then from there understand your body a hell of a lot better. And we should be doing that so much more as a society, but I don't think that we do.

Lainie: 18:51

No, I don't think we do. We don't honour the vessel that we're here. The vessel being our body. We don't honour that enough. Even in your 20s People are working out and they're looking like they're healthy. But this generation has a different idea about their body.

Emmanuel: 19:06

Looking in. I think some of them are starting to look inside and outside. Because during that period, you look outside without looking inside. But then as stuff starts to break down, then you start the way my metaphor is. Most people try to treat their bodies like a random bomb. I look to treat mine like a Ferrari. You put the best fuel in the Ferrari.

Lainie: 19:25

Oh, yeah, baby. Absolutely. And so with this, loving your diagnosis with all these things that led you to want to look deeper into all the facets that contribute to health, you've become now a motivational person in people's lives. Talk us through that.

Emmanuel: 19:44

So as this journey went on, I started to look at like you said, my sister, that pivotal moment and I believe in synchronicities. I don't think that there are any kind of mistakes as you study the universe, because as a Demartini method facilitator and having studied John's work For the last 11 years, one of the things that I noticed was every time we study an ology, physiology, psychology, biology, etc. there's a mathematical algorithm that runs that. And when I looked at it, I went, I don't believe in God, I'm an atheist. But there's definitely a grant organised design, which is an acronym for God. Behind this, how can every aspect of the universe have so much detail, whatever, whoever in terms of intelligence, I believe there's a man of a grey beard that put it together, that whatever intelligence put this together, and this experience that we call life, it's magnificent. And we have the opportunity to be part of that magnificence. So I just wanted to have a look through the lens of that grand organised design, as I started to study physiology and everything else, and creating those changes within myself, even realising that I didn't need to live life like everybody else. But I could alter the way in which I did that and create results, I wanted to share that with other people. And I started off with a consulting, I still do that today and one on one, but then decided going into group talks and situations like this, because I just felt that as I've helped people alter and change, if we don't have a variety of ways to do that, we just go towards drugs. And to me, it's quite often, I have no problems with pharmaceuticals. By the way, if I was in a car accident, drug me up like crazy, but we are teetering on abuse, overuse. And I think that's the conversation that I want people to have,

Lainie: 21:20

yeah, have you got sort of final words to say to anyone that's experiencing, probably anyone that's experiencing a situation where they're in medical scenario, and they don't feel like they're quite in control?

Emmanuel: 21:35

So there's a beautiful saying by Dr. John Demartini, which is, injury can be perceived as jury from within. And when we have a lot of things going on within our lives and a lot of trials and tribulations we add extra stress to whatever it is this occurring physiologically and psychologically within our minds. So if you're experiencing challenges, one of the first things I'd say is learn how to psychologically take on those challenges and increase your resilience. Because the mind can quite often play a bigger role than whatever's happening. You may have to go speak to a doctor next week, but you can be anxious about speaking the doctor for 24 hours and seven days leading up to that. And that has a huge impact on the body, not just the heart. But it's going to create brain noise, which is what occupies time and space in your mind. And then it's going to create highly volatile emotions, which will make you look for things like a quick fix, or chocolate or sex or drugs or things like that. So my best advice is, and it's the reason I specialise within the mind, learn how to control your perceptions, learn how to control your emotions, and then from there grow and evolve towards working on the physiological aspect. In fact, I'll give you the four pillars that were given to me that have helped me really ultimately, number one, learn how to control your perceptions. As you do that, you will take control of what's happening within your life. Yes, things can happen on the outside, but we make mountains out of little kind of bumps in the road too often. The second one is work on your physiology, the psychology is working inside out. But you want to work on what you're putting into the body as well. You can do all the psychological work that you want. But if you're not, if you're putting foods and things inside of you that's killing this living organism, it's like running on a treadmill and eating doughnuts at the same time. You're it's counterintuitive. So working on the inside of the outside, do what you love. It's whenever you do what you love and love what you do, you increase your energy and vitality. Five hours feels like five minutes, you're maximising your potential in too many people that I think they had, their suicide rate was usually on a Monday, when people are rocking up to jobs, their love, I think more people need to do what they love, share your mission with the world. This podcast is an example of sharing your vision and your mission of as many people as possible and sharing light. So they give themselves permission to pass that light on as well. And we can take people out of darkness. And then the last one is mastering all seven areas of life, whatever area of your life, whether it's physical, financial, mental, spiritual, social, vocational, family, whatever area that you run away from, you keep running into in terms of challenges. So if you can set goals, especially in January, that inspire you in all seven areas and really challenge yourself to grow and evolve, you can leave not only an amazing contribution for you and your family, but for the world in that so there my four pillars to maximum wealth, wellness and wellbeing.

Lainie: 24:13

Wow, this is not your first rodeo is it? You just reeled that off like a professional. Wow, well done. If people want to find out a little bit more about how to tame the mind beast get in touch with Emmanual or read his blogs, I'll put up a link to that as well. Thank you so much for sharing that. That was very inspiring.

Emmanuel: 24:34

Thank you very much for having me. I appreciate being able to share some of the different usually people talking about my profession, but today it was very personal. And I appreciate having this conversation.

Lainie: 24:44

Yeah, well, like you said the personal side lead into your professional side. So you were this before you were that so thank you so much for sharing what you were which led to who you are now because to me that's really interesting and really important.

Emmanuel: 24:57

Beautiful, obviously one final note for me anybody looking to reach out, we'll leave a link for a 20 minute complimentary consultation that's free. And it's a great chance to just say hello, that same way that we literally just said, Hello. Prior to this podcast, I love connecting with people all around the world and finding out where are you now? What are your major challenges? What are your goals, and then you know what we can achieve and what we can do in what timeframe? So if you're open for a virtual coffee, whether that's video audio, feel free to click on that link.

Lainie: 25:28

That's amazing. Thank you so much for that generosity as well. Do it. Take him up on it. All right. Well, I'll say bye for now. And thank you and I hope a lot of people come your way through this because it seems like you know exactly what you're doing.

Emmanuel: 25:41

love and gratitude to you all. Thank you very much.

Lainie: 25:43

All right, I'll see ya. B